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Apprendre le Kabyle • Afficher le sujet - Formation d'une phrase en kabyle
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Formation d'une phrase en kabyle

MessagePosté: 13 Aoû 2011, 17:53
par Moudjib
Bonjour,
Cela serait bien gentil de votre part si vous acceptez de me faire un petit cours sur la formation d'une phrase en kabyle (l'emplacement des verbes, des noms, des adverbes dans une phrase) ainsi que la phrase interrogative et negative.
Merci

MessagePosté: 13 Aoû 2011, 18:04
par Labib23dz
azul moudjib,

tessneḍ ciṭuḥ taqvaylit ? (tu parle un peu le kabyle ?) ;

ou bien vous êtes totalement nouveau ?

MessagePosté: 13 Aoû 2011, 20:28
par zaki
azul moudjib

c'est simple pour une phrase simple:

moudjib icc'a tahboult => moudjib a mangé une galette.
sujet + verbe + objet

MessagePosté: 14 Aoû 2011, 00:29
par Moudjib
Merci Zaki,
Donc y pas de difference entre le Français et le Kabyle pour ce qui concerne la formation d'une phrase,
Moi je suis nouveau Labib
Merci

MessagePosté: 14 Aoû 2011, 11:34
par Labib23dz
bonjour Moudjib

pour ce qui est de la formation des phrases, zaki a raison, généralement c'est sujet + verbe + objet, cependant, c'est n'est pas toujours le cas, ça diffère grandement d'une conversation a une autre, d'une situation a une autre, d'un temps a un autre.

vu que tu es nouveau , personnellement, je te conseil de commencer par les cours qui se trouvent dans ce site pour avoir quelques bases et un minimum de lexique, ensuite, tu peux tenter des trucs plus compliqués.

bon apprentissage.

MessagePosté: 14 Aoû 2011, 20:15
par Moudjib

MessagePosté: 09 Juin 2012, 11:30
par Godzilla
Azul

Pour ce qui est des phrases, on peut déjà dire que :

- le verbe contient un sujet qui n'est pas toujours précisé (ex : "Yefka" [il a donné]). C'est en général parce que le sujet a déjà été évoqué auparavant, qu'on ne le reprécise pas.

- si on veut préciser le sujet, on le fait de deux façons : soit de façon classique, littéraire (ex : "Yefka weqcic-nni" [le gars en question a donné]), soit de façon courante, parlée (ex : "Aqcic-nni, yefka" [le gars en question, il a donné])
Dans le premier cas, "aqcic" est à la forme annexée, car tous les noms qui sont sujet d'un verbe placé avant eux dans la phrase, sont annexés.

- si on veut préciser l'objet direct, on le place effectivement après le verbe (ex : "Aqcic-nni, yefka idrimen" [le gars en question, il a donné des sous]), à l'état libre

- si on veut préciser l'objet indirect, on le place aussi après le verbe, précédé de la préposition "i" = "à, pour" (ex : "Aqcic-nni, yefka idrimen i temghart-is" [le gars en question, il a donné des sous à sa belle-mère])
On note que "tamghart" est mis à l'état d'annexion, car c'est généralement le cas après une préposition (exception notoire : "s" = "vers, en direction de", suivi de nom à l'état libre)

- et enfin, si on veut préciser une circonstance (temps, lieu, moyen), on utilise soit un adverbe (aujourd'hui), soit une proposition subordonnée introduite généralement par une préposition (lorsque, après, ...).
On peut placer l'un ou l'autre en début ou en fin de phrase, tout dépend de l'importance qu'on veut donner à cette précision (les informations importantes étant généralement placées en début de phrase)

MessagePosté: 13 Juin 2012, 12:00
par Godzilla
Suite de "comment faire une phrase" :

Une phrase complément d'un nom :

1. "le gars qui mange du pain"
2. "la fille que j'aime"

1er cas :

"le gars qui mange du pain" = "le gars mangeant du pain"

On utilise donc le participe (voir "conjugaison de cent verbes utiles" par Amsebrid dans les cours des membres).

Ex :

"le gars qui mange du pain (en ce moment)" = "aqcic itetten aghrum"
"le gars qui a mangé du pain" = "aqcic yeccan aghrum"
"le gars qui n'a pas mangé du pain" = "aqcic ur necci aghrum"
"le gars qui mangera du pain" = "aqcic ara yeccen aghrum"
"le gars qui ne mangera pas du pain" = "aqcic ur ntett aghrum" (on utilise le radical de l'aoriste intensif)

2ème cas :

"la fille que j'aime" : "que" = "i" sauf au futur affirmatif = "ara"

Ex :

"la fille que j'aime" = "taqcict i hemmlegh"
"la fille que je n'aime pas" = "taqcict i ur hemmlegh (ara)"
"la fille que j'aimerai" = "taqcict ara hemmlegh"
"la fille que je n'aimerai pas" = "taqcict i ur tthemmilegh (ara)" (on utilise le radical de l'aoriste intensif)
"la fille qu'ils aiment" = "taqcict i hemmelen"
"la fille que vous (masculin) avez aimée" = "taqcict i hemmlem"

Ar tikelt nniden... 8)

Note : les "c" soulignés correspondent au c avec croissant de lune de l'alphabet kabyle.